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#1 19April1775

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 05:23 PM

Or will he double down?  


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 07:26 PM

He will announce that he is sorry and will head off to a resort to collect his thoughts, investigate his inner feelings, and come back a new Senator to represent his constituency.... he will double down...

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 08:03 PM

I swear there must be Viagra in Washington's DC water.....


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 08:10 PM

I'm more worried about Roy Moore.



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Posted 06 December 2017 - 10:26 PM

He's fine. 

 

Thanks for asking.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 08:32 AM

Surprised in a way how Franken got away with this crap. 

 

 

 

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:20 PM

He's out.



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 12:23 PM

the gop guy from texas has to be next



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

OK, so now the Dems. are clean. Now they're going after the Republicans, trump, Moore, and so on. This is going to be fun!



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Posted 07 December 2017 - 03:18 PM

I think the key is term limits.

 

Eventually ALL senators, congressfolk, governors, assemblyfolk . . . turn bad.  It is the system that corrupts.  Some just last a bit longer than others.  And some, obviously, are bad before they run for election.


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Posted 07 December 2017 - 04:15 PM

I'm more worried about Roy Moore.

 

I'm not.  And this might surprise you.  I don't think Franken should have resigned today, based on what is out there publicly.  He is a sitting Senator.  People voted for him.  Don't get me wrong.  I think his ideology should have a stake driven through it's heart.  But have you ever looked at all the photos at Hollywood events showing women grabbing dick's?  Whether you agree with that culture or not that appears to be normal to them.  Did he rape anyone?  Did he get revealed as a pedophile?  I've seen no evidence of that.  So why did he resign?


The primary function of the independent juror, is not as many think, to despense punishment to fellow citizens accused of breaking various laws, but rather to protect fellow citizens from tyrannical abuses of power by government.

The Constitution guarantees you the right to trial by jury. This means that government must bring its case before a jury of The People if government wants to deprive any person of life, liberty or property. Jurors can say no to government tyranny by refusing to convict.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 09:25 PM

I think the key is term limits.
 
Eventually ALL senators, congressfolk, governors, assemblyfolk . . . turn bad.  It is the system that corrupts.  Some just last a bit longer than others.  And some, obviously, are bad before they run for election.


Yes indeed.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 01:06 AM

 

I'm not.  And this might surprise you.  I don't think Franken should have resigned today, based on what is out there publicly.  He is a sitting Senator.  People voted for him.  Don't get me wrong.  I think his ideology should have a stake driven through it's heart.  But have you ever looked at all the photos at Hollywood events showing women grabbing dick's?  Whether you agree with that culture or not that appears to be normal to them.  Did he rape anyone?  Did he get revealed as a pedophile?  I've seen no evidence of that.  So why did he resign?

I sort of agree with you. The people elected him. He was a comedian before he ran? However, one would expect him to have transitioned into the role of a sitting senator. He didn't. He continued to behave like a comedian as evidenced by the photo.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:01 AM

The photo and the initial allegation were before he was a senator (2006, he was elected in 2008). He was touring as a comedian from SNL. Not sure about all of the allegations, but several were from that time period.

Interesting article in the New Yorker on this topic. Lest it fall into the category of TLDR (too long, didnt read) the cliff notes version is that we are now in a lynch mob mentality. We have spread from targeting crimes like rape and abusing powerful positions at work for sex (illegal behaviors) to targeting any sexual behavior we dont like e.g making a boorish, unwanted pass at someone (uncomfortable, rude, and stupid but not illegal). The point is that we are on a slippery slope once we start targeting sexual behavior just because we dont like it, rather than limiting to the illegal. It opens the door to targeting any of a variety of behaviors just because people dont like them, which is something that many of the #metoo advocates would find horrifying.
https://www.newyorke...-force-of-metoo

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:16 AM

Almost positive that the photo and the initial allegation were before he was a senator. Not sure about all of the allegations, but several were from that time period.
Interesting article in the New Yorker on this topic. Lest it fall into the category of TLDR (too long, didnt read) the cliff notes version is that we are now in a lynch mob mentality. We have spread from targeting crimes like rape and abusing powerful positions at work for sex (illegal behaviors) to targeting any sexual behavior we dont like e.g making a boorish, unwanted pass at someone (uncomfortable, rude, and stupid but not illegal). The point is that we are on a slippery slope once we start targeting sexual behavior just because we dont like it, rather than limiting to the illegal. It opens the door to targeting any of a variety of behaviors just because people dont like them, which is something that many of the #metoo advocates would find horrifying. https://www.newyorke...-force-of-metoo


Agree. Especially regarding the present "lynch mob mentality" and distinguishing between behaviors we don't like as opposed to the illegal status of same. I suspect that very few office Christmas parties this season (if they still dare refer to them as such) will offer the traditional mistletoe hanging.

But I also believe that in the bigger political picture this is still just one more case of the wounded & outed left sided media and frantic Democrat Party searching and trying out the next in the line of Bring Trump Down strategies de jour.

We saw Al Franken ask at his so called resignation...."what about Trump?"....we saw our very own opportunistic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand repositioning herself to proclaim recently that Bill Clinton should've resigned....a hypocritical and very transparent attempt to now distance herself from the blatant reality of her Democrat Party's unanimous refusal to impeach him and after herself previously publishing her Happy Birthday greetings to the Chief Sexual Harraser along with photos of the two.

If anything readers, the knowledge and now public discovery of taxpayer dollars being set aside and used to silence accusers of sexual harassment by Congressional members should silence ANY sitting member of that previously noble branch of government. And if we the people are now asked to acknowledge show outrage at the level of this sexual harassment amongst our government leaders, how dare anyone honestly now argue the merits of Trump's "swamp" label for DC???

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:29 AM

The photo and the initial allegation were before he was a senator (2006, he was elected in 2008). He was touring as a comedian from SNL. Not sure about all of the allegations, but several were from that time period.

Interesting article in the New Yorker on this topic. Lest it fall into the category of TLDR (too long, didnt read) the cliff notes version is that we are now in a lynch mob mentality. We have spread from targeting crimes like rape and abusing powerful positions at work for sex (illegal behaviors) to targeting any sexual behavior we dont like e.g making a boorish, unwanted pass at someone (uncomfortable, rude, and stupid but not illegal). The point is that we are on a slippery slope once we start targeting sexual behavior just because we dont like it, rather than limiting to the illegal. It opens the door to targeting any of a variety of behaviors just because people dont like them, which is something that many of the #metoo advocates would find horrifying.
https://www.newyorke...-force-of-metoo

Thanks for clearing that up. I thought he already was a senator when that happened. I actually have no knowledge of Al Franken before he ran for Senator. I never saw him on tv. I never even knew he was on SNL ...I thought he was some kind of curmudgeonly Andy Rooney type commentator.

 

Secondarily, why are we surprised about the hush fund? I could swear Speaker Silver had some trouble with this in NYS, covering up misconduct with taxpayer funds? I'll have to look it up. 

 

post edit-found it- Silvers own legal aide in addition to others accused of sexual harassment, misconduct and date rape were covered with " zip your lip" money from taxpayer funds. The ACCUSER had to go through 30 days of counseling, a 30 day cooling off period and sign a nondisclosure contract. 



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 12:08 PM

BTW-re:Gillibrand and Schumer? Where was their moral outrage when this was going on in their OWN state? You know, it doesn't cost her ANYTHING to play the game she's playing right now. I suppose she thinks she's fighting a battle but it's too late for that. ZERO GRAVITAS.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 02:52 PM

The photo and the initial allegation were before he was a senator (2006, he was elected in 2008). He was touring as a comedian from SNL. Not sure about all of the allegations, but several were from that time period.

Interesting article in the New Yorker on this topic. Lest it fall into the category of TLDR (too long, didnt read) the cliff notes version is that we are now in a lynch mob mentality. We have spread from targeting crimes like rape and abusing powerful positions at work for sex (illegal behaviors) to targeting any sexual behavior we dont like e.g making a boorish, unwanted pass at someone (uncomfortable, rude, and stupid but not illegal). The point is that we are on a slippery slope once we start targeting sexual behavior just because we dont like it, rather than limiting to the illegal. It opens the door to targeting any of a variety of behaviors just because people dont like them, which is something that many of the #metoo advocates would find horrifying.
https://www.newyorke...-force-of-metoo

 

Well call me Jacksonx4. /signed

 

Of course, this is just how liberals roll. How many people have lost their jobs in the past year because they dared to express a point of view that didn't perfectly align with the liberal agenda?

 

It's just nice to see the libs eat each other for once.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:08 PM

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:02 PM

Seeing a lot of chatter that says Franken delaying his "intended" resignation is only to see what happens with the Roy Moore race.  If Roy Moore wins he hunkers down.  That means we will have to listen to a bunch of insane communists in the democrat party and media for a couple of weeks.  This plays perfectly into Trump's hands.  Let them be distracted as he scores win after win for #MAGA.  The coastal elites will wake up one day and realize he has so many accomplishments, in such a short amount of time, they are done for a couple of generations at least.


The primary function of the independent juror, is not as many think, to despense punishment to fellow citizens accused of breaking various laws, but rather to protect fellow citizens from tyrannical abuses of power by government.

The Constitution guarantees you the right to trial by jury. This means that government must bring its case before a jury of The People if government wants to deprive any person of life, liberty or property. Jurors can say no to government tyranny by refusing to convict.



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