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Just wondering what policies and procedures local school districts follow regarding selective classification (allowing 7th and/or 8th grade students to participate in JV or varsity sports...)
Which schools allow 7th graders to go through process? Which schools only consider 8th graders?
Besides screening required by the NYS Ed Dept (physical maturity screening by medical personnel, athletic fitness screening on several tasks with set necessary benchmarks for each sport...) what other factors do districts consider? ONLY athletic skills? Or athletic skill AND some combination of academic and social/emotional?
How common is it in your area?
What drives students moving up? Are they "too good" for jr high/modified competition? Push from parents? Push from coaches to build programs?
Thanks for any insight you can offer!
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Selective Classification is the most abused policy in NY Athletics.
You tend to see it more in the smaller schools with most sports but AD's and coaches
will Selectively Classify kids just to fill rosters.
The policy is designed so that "exceptional" 7th or 8th graders can be tested to play the JV/Var level.
By exceptional they should not only be good at what they do for their school, but exceptional in the area.
Many times this is confused with "We need an outfielder that is better than the overweight senior".
The little 7th grader is the best "ChucktownUSA" has to offer but in the grand scope of things is an average varsity player.
If this is the case she doesn't belong on Varsity.
The sport of wrestling abuses it the most to fill their ridiculous light weight classes. 7th graders winning state titles at 96 pounds?? Weird. You mean to tell me that they aren't seniors at that weight?? Nice use of spirit of the sport. Swimming and Golf aren't all that far behind.
Local school boards have the right to rebuke the policy and not test anyone.
So the policy varies.
Another joke is the test. How many 7th graders out there broad jumping 7 feet?? Yea, good one. The local Gym teacher looks the other way so
he doesn't have to deal with crazy mom/dad.
I hope I summed her up for ya.
You tend to see it more in the smaller schools with most sports but AD's and coaches
will Selectively Classify kids just to fill rosters.
The policy is designed so that "exceptional" 7th or 8th graders can be tested to play the JV/Var level.
By exceptional they should not only be good at what they do for their school, but exceptional in the area.
Many times this is confused with "We need an outfielder that is better than the overweight senior".
The little 7th grader is the best "ChucktownUSA" has to offer but in the grand scope of things is an average varsity player.
If this is the case she doesn't belong on Varsity.
The sport of wrestling abuses it the most to fill their ridiculous light weight classes. 7th graders winning state titles at 96 pounds?? Weird. You mean to tell me that they aren't seniors at that weight?? Nice use of spirit of the sport. Swimming and Golf aren't all that far behind.
Local school boards have the right to rebuke the policy and not test anyone.
So the policy varies.
Another joke is the test. How many 7th graders out there broad jumping 7 feet?? Yea, good one. The local Gym teacher looks the other way so
he doesn't have to deal with crazy mom/dad.
I hope I summed her up for ya.
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Just wondering what policies and procedures local school districts follow regarding selective classification (allowing 7th and/or 8th grade students to participate in JV or varsity sports...)
Which schools allow 7th graders to go through process? Which schools only consider 8th graders?
Besides screening required by the NYS Ed Dept (physical maturity screening by medical personnel, athletic fitness screening on several tasks with set necessary benchmarks for each sport...) what other factors do districts consider? ONLY athletic skills? Or athletic skill AND some combination of academic and social/emotional?
How common is it in your area?
What drives students moving up? Are they "too good" for jr high/modified competition? Push from parents? Push from coaches to build programs?
Thanks for any insight you can offer!
Which schools allow 7th graders to go through process? Which schools only consider 8th graders?
Besides screening required by the NYS Ed Dept (physical maturity screening by medical personnel, athletic fitness screening on several tasks with set necessary benchmarks for each sport...) what other factors do districts consider? ONLY athletic skills? Or athletic skill AND some combination of academic and social/emotional?
How common is it in your area?
What drives students moving up? Are they "too good" for jr high/modified competition? Push from parents? Push from coaches to build programs?
Thanks for any insight you can offer!
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You might want to check on the current rules, but it used to be that once a kid plays JV in one game, he cannot go back down to modified. If he goes up, and doesn't play, you cannot change your mind and send him back down to modified.
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You might want to check on the current rules, but it used to be that once a kid plays JV in one game, he cannot go back down to modified. If he goes up, and doesn't play, you cannot change your mind and send him back down to modified.
You might want to check on the current rules, but it used to be that once a kid plays JV in one game, he cannot go back down to modified. If he goes up, and doesn't play, you cannot change your mind and send him back down to modified.
True. Once you move up, and paperwork has been filed, you can't move back down.
And, you must move up by a certain date in the season, and participate in a certain number of varsity contests, in order to be eligible to participate in Sectionals
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To me, its ok if the athlete has advanced skills in comparison to his schoolmates or if a particular team needs more players. Why not promote a dedicated athlete rather than beg some slug to try out? The younger team benefits by providing more playing time to those athletes left behind. Good way to build depth in a program and prepare the selected athletes for possibly playing in college.
That said, the athlete must have the physical maturity and emotional balance to handle it, especially adversity, jealousy and failure. They typically have dominated at their age level and now face much stiffer competition in practice and games.
Should certainly be the exception, not the rule. Coaches, not parents need to make the decision to test.
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Posted 27 August 2010 - 09:46 AM
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To me, its ok if the athlete has advanced skills in comparison to his schoolmates or if a particular team needs more players. Why not promote a dedicated athlete rather than beg some slug to try out? The younger team benefits by providing more playing time to those athletes left behind. Good way to build depth in a program and prepare the selected athletes for possibly playing in college.
That said, the athlete must have the physical maturity and emotional balance to handle it, especially adversity, jealousy and failure. They typically have dominated at their age level and now face much stiffer competition in practice and games.
Should certainly be the exception, not the rule. Coaches, not parents need to make the decision to test.
That said, the athlete must have the physical maturity and emotional balance to handle it, especially adversity, jealousy and failure. They typically have dominated at their age level and now face much stiffer competition in practice and games.
Should certainly be the exception, not the rule. Coaches, not parents need to make the decision to test.
I disagree.
Many coaches and parents only see the "opportunity" and not the drawbacks.
If kids on the team think there is a chance they are better than that individual then it is a problem.
The player should be a clear "difference maker" in the team's performance.
I see your attraction to replacing "slugs" because every team has them but many times you could send a bad message
replacing an upperclassmen with a "developing 8th grader" with a clearly higher ceiling.
Many kids also think of it as a status thing.
They start believing their own hype and stop developing as a player.
They really need to pass the eye test. When you watch them perform at the high level they have been selected for,
it should be clear they are a good player, top in the area type.
"playing in college" logic is a crock. You either are or you aren't. Top players or athletes in any sport won't be missed because
they didn't play the JV/Var in 8th grade.
Your points on balance are right on for sure. Especially emotional factor. I would also add that the athlete needs to be a good student in
school and well respected by teachers and administrators. If the kid is a bit squirrelly then elevating his social status will only entice him
to be even more self confident, not only in sports but in squirrellyness.
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Theres a shock. You disagreeing with anyone. Did the slug comment hit a little close to home perhaps?
I will say that another thing to consider is learning to lead a team is easier if you play age appropriate rather than get elevated and take a back seat to the older, better players.
Obviously 85 lb mat lickers dont worry about this, but members of team sports do.
I've seen kids benefit from not being moved up and I've seen kids that clearly should be playing with older kids due to maturity and skills.
Guess thats why its a case by case basis and should be determined by AD, Coaches, Parents and Player.
Nothing wrong with developing a kid for a college career btw.
I will say that another thing to consider is learning to lead a team is easier if you play age appropriate rather than get elevated and take a back seat to the older, better players.
Obviously 85 lb mat lickers dont worry about this, but members of team sports do.
I've seen kids benefit from not being moved up and I've seen kids that clearly should be playing with older kids due to maturity and skills.
Guess thats why its a case by case basis and should be determined by AD, Coaches, Parents and Player.
Nothing wrong with developing a kid for a college career btw.
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While Bucked Tooth has made a living on here being a contrarian, there was a few pages from Fran Angeline's Tiger book about mixing in a physically developed junior high player with older players who will be talking about things he is not ready to hear about. It is a tough two-way street. I guess letting them be kids longer instead of grooming for college has gone by the wayside. Good topic, however!
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I have been involved in high schoolsports for over 30 years and not ONCE have I seen a youger athlete moved up another level for the kids benefit. In EVERY case it is because the coach is looking to improve the teams ability to win; period end of conversation. The crap about "grooming the student athlete" or "rewarding johnnie or susy for thier commitment" is nothing but whitewash from the coach. It is easier to coach a talented underclassman who wants to play than to have to coach and teach a less talented junior or senior to play the game.
There is certain criteria the kids are supposed to meet but they are also a joke. If the coach wants your kid moved up- they get moved up. The "7 ft broad jump" line at one southern tier school was 4'3" one day and 5' 7" the next. The mile run gets shorter each time it was ran one year. Only once did I see a complete and true certification that was without a gift from the coach or administrator in charge of the process. I have seen moms and dads lobby to get kids moved up with amazing determination. Some dads would do ANYTHING to put "johnnie" on the varsity as a freshman ( I know one mom who did).
Personaly I see nothing wrong with moving the advanced kids ahead. They do it in Math, Science, Music, etc. The difference is in those activities is that they callit what it is. They don't pretend to "certify" a kid to move them up a level, they do it. They evaluate they talent and challenge the students ability accordingly. They don't say " we are grooming susie for Harvard".
Come on coach, speak the truth and say " I want that kid because they make our team a better team" or " I want that kid on our team because I slept with his mom and I promised I would move them up" . Don't blow smoke with the excuses.
There is certain criteria the kids are supposed to meet but they are also a joke. If the coach wants your kid moved up- they get moved up. The "7 ft broad jump" line at one southern tier school was 4'3" one day and 5' 7" the next. The mile run gets shorter each time it was ran one year. Only once did I see a complete and true certification that was without a gift from the coach or administrator in charge of the process. I have seen moms and dads lobby to get kids moved up with amazing determination. Some dads would do ANYTHING to put "johnnie" on the varsity as a freshman ( I know one mom who did).
Personaly I see nothing wrong with moving the advanced kids ahead. They do it in Math, Science, Music, etc. The difference is in those activities is that they callit what it is. They don't pretend to "certify" a kid to move them up a level, they do it. They evaluate they talent and challenge the students ability accordingly. They don't say " we are grooming susie for Harvard".
Come on coach, speak the truth and say " I want that kid because they make our team a better team" or " I want that kid on our team because I slept with his mom and I promised I would move them up" . Don't blow smoke with the excuses.
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Of course the previous poster is correct.
Has there been examples of modified kids moving up and doing well?
Sure.
They are few and far between.
It seems individual sports seem to be more successful and this, more
likely because of the parameters of the sport.
If a swimmer moves up in 8th grade, the measuring stick for that athlete should
be if they place in the top in the section in their event. If they are there to make the
relay team better then it is the coach who is clueless.
Other states do not allow modified kids up. They seem to get athletes to college just fine.
If you think you know college athletic material in the 8th grade......
Has there been examples of modified kids moving up and doing well?
Sure.
They are few and far between.
It seems individual sports seem to be more successful and this, more
likely because of the parameters of the sport.
If a swimmer moves up in 8th grade, the measuring stick for that athlete should
be if they place in the top in the section in their event. If they are there to make the
relay team better then it is the coach who is clueless.
Other states do not allow modified kids up. They seem to get athletes to college just fine.
If you think you know college athletic material in the 8th grade......
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Of course the previous poster is correct.
Has there been examples of modified kids moving up and doing well?
Sure.
They are few and far between.
It seems individual sports seem to be more successful and this, more
likely because of the parameters of the sport.
If a swimmer moves up in 8th grade, the measuring stick for that athlete should
be if they place in the top in the section in their event. If they are there to make the
relay team better then it is the coach who is clueless.
Other states do not allow modified kids up. They seem to get athletes to college just fine.
If you think you know college athletic material in the 8th grade......
Has there been examples of modified kids moving up and doing well?
Sure.
They are few and far between.
It seems individual sports seem to be more successful and this, more
likely because of the parameters of the sport.
If a swimmer moves up in 8th grade, the measuring stick for that athlete should
be if they place in the top in the section in their event. If they are there to make the
relay team better then it is the coach who is clueless.
Other states do not allow modified kids up. They seem to get athletes to college just fine.
If you think you know college athletic material in the 8th grade......
Are there limits on the number of years a students can play a varsity sport? For example, if a student moved up to varsity as a 7th grader, and then at some point during their high school career had to repeat a grade, could they be jeopardizing their opportunity to play as a senior? Or can you play on a varsity sport for an unlimited number of seasons?
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Let's take parent motives and coach's motives out of the discussion and look purely at the ability of the athlete.
NON-Contact sports - The physical "maturity test" should not come into play. If the kid is a better golfer, swimmer, tennis player - then he earns the spot on the team. Wrestling is slightly different in that weight classes level the playing field - but there again the better kid gets the spot. Purely performance based - head to head competition - the winner gets the spot.
CONTACT SPORTS : This is where the line gets blurry. Sadly, parent persuasion and coaching bias does play a role - but not nearly as much as one would think if they were to believe the majority of the posts on this WEBSITE (chuckle). Having witnessed first hand and been on both ends of the "treatment" - both as a player and a parent, I feel strongly about one thing : If you are going to pull a kid up - then he should be starting and or playing at least half the game. Other than that - let the chips fall where they may. As a general rule of thumb - If the kid is not clearly the better player - keeping him down is the best option for all. Most schools would appear to be following that practice.
NON-Contact sports - The physical "maturity test" should not come into play. If the kid is a better golfer, swimmer, tennis player - then he earns the spot on the team. Wrestling is slightly different in that weight classes level the playing field - but there again the better kid gets the spot. Purely performance based - head to head competition - the winner gets the spot.
CONTACT SPORTS : This is where the line gets blurry. Sadly, parent persuasion and coaching bias does play a role - but not nearly as much as one would think if they were to believe the majority of the posts on this WEBSITE (chuckle). Having witnessed first hand and been on both ends of the "treatment" - both as a player and a parent, I feel strongly about one thing : If you are going to pull a kid up - then he should be starting and or playing at least half the game. Other than that - let the chips fall where they may. As a general rule of thumb - If the kid is not clearly the better player - keeping him down is the best option for all. Most schools would appear to be following that practice.
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Are there limits on the number of years a students can play a varsity sport? For example, if a student moved up to varsity as a 7th grader, and then at some point during their high school career had to repeat a grade, could they be jeopardizing their opportunity to play as a senior? Or can you play on a varsity sport for an unlimited number of seasons?
If a kid starts in 7th grade he gets 6 years of eligibility.
8th=5 years.
Failing has no effect on it. If you fail you don't play your senior year.
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Let's take parent motives and coach's motives out of the discussion and look purely at the ability of the athlete.
NON-Contact sports - The physical "maturity test" should not come into play. If the kid is a better golfer, swimmer, tennis player - then he earns the spot on the team. Wrestling is slightly different in that weight classes level the playing field - but there again the better kid gets the spot. Purely performance based - head to head competition - the winner gets the spot.
CONTACT SPORTS : This is where the line gets blurry. Sadly, parent persuasion and coaching bias does play a role - but not nearly as much as one would think if they were to believe the majority of the posts on this WEBSITE (chuckle). Having witnessed first hand and been on both ends of the "treatment" - both as a player and a parent, I feel strongly about one thing : If you are going to pull a kid up - then he should be starting and or playing at least half the game. Other than that - let the chips fall where they may. As a general rule of thumb - If the kid is not clearly the better player - keeping him down is the best option for all. Most schools would appear to be following that practice.
NON-Contact sports - The physical "maturity test" should not come into play. If the kid is a better golfer, swimmer, tennis player - then he earns the spot on the team. Wrestling is slightly different in that weight classes level the playing field - but there again the better kid gets the spot. Purely performance based - head to head competition - the winner gets the spot.
CONTACT SPORTS : This is where the line gets blurry. Sadly, parent persuasion and coaching bias does play a role - but not nearly as much as one would think if they were to believe the majority of the posts on this WEBSITE (chuckle). Having witnessed first hand and been on both ends of the "treatment" - both as a player and a parent, I feel strongly about one thing : If you are going to pull a kid up - then he should be starting and or playing at least half the game. Other than that - let the chips fall where they may. As a general rule of thumb - If the kid is not clearly the better player - keeping him down is the best option for all. Most schools would appear to be following that practice.
NON Contact: I like your logic however, if the kid isn't exceptional they really don't need to be there. Golf: different because there really isn't modified that I know of. As for the others, the spirit of the rule is if they aren't one of the best in the area, not your school, then they don't belong.
Here is why:
Take your wrestling example: a modified kid can pin the 9th grader that weighs in at 96 pounds. He, by your theory, should be varsity. So if the kid goes and has a losing record how is that benefitting the kid?? Sure he wins a couple matches for the team but how is getting his head smashed in helping the kid?? Aren't sports about the kid?
My point is coaches and parents overlook these things to gain the status of being a special athlete.
Contact: Agree 100% except the kid better play more than that. If this kid is so special to be brought up then he better be playing every possible minute. Wouldn't you rather have the kid logging valuable minutes as much as possible to help your program for the future??
Any coach that brings a kid up and doesn't play them should be not only fired but arrested for stupidity.
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Just wondering what policies and procedures local school districts follow regarding selective classification (allowing 7th and/or 8th grade students to participate in JV or varsity sports...)
Which schools allow 7th graders to go through process? Which schools only consider 8th graders?
Besides screening required by the NYS Ed Dept (physical maturity screening by medical personnel, athletic fitness screening on several tasks with set necessary benchmarks for each sport...) what other factors do districts consider? ONLY athletic skills? Or athletic skill AND some combination of academic and social/emotional?
How common is it in your area?
What drives students moving up? Are they "too good" for jr high/modified competition? Push from parents? Push from coaches to build programs?
Thanks for any insight you can offer!
Which schools allow 7th graders to go through process? Which schools only consider 8th graders?
Besides screening required by the NYS Ed Dept (physical maturity screening by medical personnel, athletic fitness screening on several tasks with set necessary benchmarks for each sport...) what other factors do districts consider? ONLY athletic skills? Or athletic skill AND some combination of academic and social/emotional?
How common is it in your area?
What drives students moving up? Are they "too good" for jr high/modified competition? Push from parents? Push from coaches to build programs?
Thanks for any insight you can offer!
The rule is for kids who are truly superior. Too many schools use it to fill out JV rosters for "dying" sports like soccer and field hockey. If you use it to fill a roster you are wrong. If a kid is that much better/bigger/faster he/she should move up. There is a JV and a varsity test, they should do away with the JV test.
Many times it is parents (they are usually wrong). It could be coaches trying to "build" a program by making kids think they're "that" good (a certain, local HS basketball program comes to mind).
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The rule is for kids who are truly superior. Too many schools use it to fill out JV rosters for "dying" sports like soccer and field hockey. If you use it to fill a roster you are wrong. If a kid is that much better/bigger/faster he/she should move up. There is a JV and a varsity test, they should do away with the JV test.
Many times it is parents (they are usually wrong). It could be coaches trying to "build" a program by making kids think they're "that" good (a certain, local HS basketball program comes to mind).
Many times it is parents (they are usually wrong). It could be coaches trying to "build" a program by making kids think they're "that" good (a certain, local HS basketball program comes to mind).
It is everywhere.
Not limited to one school or another.
Too many coaches/parents trying to over promote average kids in an area that puts
kids in college athletics in 2 sports: Wrestling and Softball.
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Yet another reason why the rest of the,world uses a club model,to,administer youth sports. Age groups solves all this and eliminates useless egghead administrators
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this area sends more kids to high level programs in fh than any other sport and almost all of these kids started playing under selective classification rules. Fact.
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NON Contact: I like your logic however, if the kid isn't exceptional they really don't need to be there. Golf: different because there really isn't modified that I know of. As for the others, the spirit of the rule is if they aren't one of the best in the area, not your school, then they don't belong.
Here is why:
Take your wrestling example: a modified kid can pin the 9th grader that weighs in at 96 pounds. He, by your theory, should be varsity. So if the kid goes and has a losing record how is that benefitting the kid?? Sure he wins a couple matches for the team but how is getting his head smashed in helping the kid?? Aren't sports about the kid?
- Allow me to address your comments ...
By your logic - it would be just fine if a soph or junior got his head smashed (even more severely - remember he is already worse that the 7th or 8th grader that just beat him at his own school). Taking it one step further - by keeping that 7th or 8th grader down - he in turn smashes the heads of even younger opponents at the Modified level. How can that be good ?
Wrestling is an anomaly if you ask me. Most of these kids are nails already and can handle both giving and receiving a good beat down. I say the kid learns more getting beat on Varsity than he does man-handling kids at the modified level. Again - Wrestling is not a good example here ...
NON Contact: I like your logic however, if the kid isn't exceptional they really don't need to be there. Golf: different because there really isn't modified that I know of. As for the others, the spirit of the rule is if they aren't one of the best in the area, not your school, then they don't belong.
Here is why:
Take your wrestling example: a modified kid can pin the 9th grader that weighs in at 96 pounds. He, by your theory, should be varsity. So if the kid goes and has a losing record how is that benefitting the kid?? Sure he wins a couple matches for the team but how is getting his head smashed in helping the kid?? Aren't sports about the kid?
- Allow me to address your comments ...
By your logic - it would be just fine if a soph or junior got his head smashed (even more severely - remember he is already worse that the 7th or 8th grader that just beat him at his own school). Taking it one step further - by keeping that 7th or 8th grader down - he in turn smashes the heads of even younger opponents at the Modified level. How can that be good ?
Wrestling is an anomaly if you ask me. Most of these kids are nails already and can handle both giving and receiving a good beat down. I say the kid learns more getting beat on Varsity than he does man-handling kids at the modified level. Again - Wrestling is not a good example here ...
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Better the sophmore getting pounded than an 8th grader who is developing. No doubt.
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