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Posted 01 September 2010 - 10:26 PM

How 'bout them Cowboys!!!

(11-5) Cowboys
(10-6) Giants
(9-7) Eagles
(6-10) Redskins

(11-5) Cowboys - There are two things to keep in mind here. First off, the preseason is absolutely meaningless. All of the people ranting about Dallas looking bad are idiots. It's meaningless. The second thing is that the Cowboys have a brutal schedule, and I mean brutal. I would have had them as a 12-13 win team, but I have to subtract at least one game because of their schedule.

Let's face it: They have a stud QB. They score points. They sack the QB. The have a strong secondary. They can run the ball. All of this adds up to a division winning team. Enough said. Their only problems are in January, when all of their drive-killing penalties result in playoff losses.

They will split with the Saints/Colts, split with the Eagles, split with the Giants, lose at Green Bay, and lose one upset game. So that's 5 losses max!

(10-6) Giants - I think this will be a bounce back year for the Giants, I hate to say! They are back in the playoffs! I think their D-Line will return to form and impact every game as they should. I think their running game will wake up at least somewhat with Bradshaw as the man. And I think their young receivers will continue to grow with Eli.

They have a strong QB, should run the ball well, should have a ton of sacks, and have a strong secondary. Their problem is and has been their linebacking corps. Can they stop the run when they need to? Dallas will run it down their throats if they can't!

(9-7) Eagles - There is no way they will win the division in Kolb's 1st year as the man under center. That's not going to happen. They have the weapons on offense, but they have a 1st year starting QB and are not strong enough on defense to jump the Giants and Cowboys.

(6-10) Redskins - All of you people, including the football analysts, who think that Shanahan is a brilliant mastermind who is going to win 8-9 games this year with the Redskins ARE NUTS!!!

First off - McNabb will not play 16 games, he's an injury waiting to happen. Next, they are switching to a 3-4 defense and their NT Haynesworth is mentally Missing In Action. They can't run the ball. Their only strength is their secondary. They will NOT win 8 games, no way no how.

If I'm not mistaken, Shanahan won ONE single playoff game since Elway retired. ONE, that's it. That's horrible!!! All that brilliance won him squat without one of the greatest QBs of all-time. He's way overrated as a coach. He won back-to-back Super Bowls with Elway, and an insanely good offensive line that could zone-block the crap out of any team in the league and simply blow them off the line, just like the Cowboys of the early 90's.

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 10:53 PM

I would sign up for 10-6 for the Giants in a heartbeat.. i think it is a downyear for the nfc est. I think Dallas wins the division because of there underrated defense, not the average romo who is completely overrated. philly is young and has a good coach but kolb is unproven and that makes it tough to win on the road. Giants d is a huge ? mark, need phillips and kevin ross to be 100% and neither is. They have scored 800 points the last 2 years , there o flies under the radar but i am not optimistic. Washington stinks, Overrated coach and QB.......... . Dallas 10-6 Philly 10-6 NYG 7-9 Wash 5-11

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE (mr sarcastic @ Sep 1 2010, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would sign up for 10-6 for the Giants in a heartbeat.. i think it is a downyear for the nfc est. I think Dallas wins the division because of there underrated defense, not the average romo who is completely overrated. philly is young and has a good coach but kolb is unproven and that makes it tough to win on the road. Giants d is a huge ? mark, need phillips and kevin ross to be 100% and neither is. They have scored 800 points the last 2 years , there o flies under the radar but i am not optimistic. Washington stinks, Overrated coach and QB.......... . Dallas 10-6 Philly 10-6 NYG 7-9 Wash 5-11

This is far from a down year for the best division in football of 25+ years running! But I'm glad that someone else sees that Washington stinks and Shanahan is a bum.

I think the Giants D-Line will make a comeback this year! Time for Coughlin to return to his true self and start cracking the whip! No more Mr. Nice Coach!

You people forget that Romo is a GREAT regular season QB. Dallas is a point-scoring machine during the regular season. As you eluded to, they are sack monsters with Ware and company. They allowed the second least points in the NFL last season!

It's wishful thinking if you see Dallas losing 6 games this year. You're biased because you want the Giants to have a shot at winning the division. The Giants have NO shot at winning the division! They are not even close to as good as the Cowboys. The Cowboys have proven players all over the place. Their only question marks are at offensive tackle and depth at wide receiver. The Giants have many holes and question marks a D-Line, LB, RB, OL, WR, etc... They are a good team, but they are not nearly as complete and talented as the Cowboys.

I give Philly an over .500 record because Andy Reid can out coach the best of them! He has done it with backup QBs. He has done it without his former best offensive weapon (Westbrook). He has done it with recycled players on defense (Trotter, etc).

They guy knows how to coach and how to evaluate talent. So if he says Kolb is ready, then Kolb is READY!!!

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 11:55 PM

QUOTE (Guest @ Sep 1 2010, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is far from a down year for the best division in football of 25+ years running! But I'm glad that someone else sees that Washington stinks and Shanahan is a bum.

I think the Giants D-Line will make a comeback this year! Time for Coughlin to return to his true self and start cracking the whip! No more Mr. Nice Coach!

You people forget that Romo is a GREAT regular season QB. Dallas is a point-scoring machine during the regular season. As you eluded to, they are sack monsters with Ware and company. They allowed the second least points in the NFL last season!

It's wishful thinking if you see Dallas losing 6 games this year. You're biased because you want the Giants to have a shot at winning the division. The Giants have NO shot at winning the division! They are not even close to as good as the Cowboys. The Cowboys have proven players all over the place. Their only question marks are at offensive tackle and depth at wide receiver. The Giants have many holes and question marks a D-Line, LB, RB, OL, WR, etc... They are a good team, but they are not nearly as complete and talented as the Cowboys.

I give Philly an over .500 record because Andy Reid can out coach the best of them! He has done it with backup QBs. He has done it without his former best offensive weapon (Westbrook). He has done it with recycled players on defense (Trotter, etc).

They guy knows how to coach and how to evaluate talent. So if he says Kolb is ready, then Kolb is READY!!!

Reread my post, i picked the Giants at 7-9. Dallas is a point scoring machine, well my stats say the Giants scored 829 points the last 2 years, Dallas 723. that is a big difference. Dallas is much better than the Giants because they have a much better d-fense. Mr October tony Romo is more hype than anything. Eli has done it in January and has a ring to prove it. Ill give you Dallas is better than the Giants, but lets let Romo win something before "the point scoring machine" is in Canton

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE (mr sarcastic @ Sep 1 2010, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Reread my post, i picked the Giants at 7-9. Dallas is a point scoring machine, well my stats say the Giants scored 829 points the last 2 years, Dallas 723. that is a big difference. Dallas is much better than the Giants because they have a much better d-fense. Mr October tony Romo is more hype than anything. Eli has done it in January and has a ring to prove it. Ill give you Dallas is better than the Giants, but lets let Romo win something before "the point scoring machine" is in Canton

Oh I see, a little bit of transposing on my part sorry.

I believe that Romo missed 4 games in 2008, while Manning missed zero over the past two seasons. Right there is nearly your 100 points.

Romo isn't all hype! He's a GREAT regular season QB, and every analyst in the world rips him for not winning in January. It's talked about over and over again every game. That's not hype, that's a negative that they bash him for over and over and over again.

Eli on the other hand is an average QB at best, who had one great run to a title behind a scary-dominate defense and an unstoppable running game. It was his first, and it will be his last! He's clearly not a top-10 QB. Not even close. He's also scared to be a leader on his team, and say anything to anyone. I guess it's because he doesn't have the on-field performance to back it up. He's good for about an 80 passer this season ... over 1/2 the league is good for that rating too.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:23 AM

The Giants #1 problem is that they don't have any heart, OR leadership. They gave up last season, plain and simple. Without Strahan, Tiki, and Toomer pushing everyone, they wither and buckle under the pressure.

Manning should be the guy to step up, but he's too busy 1/2 smiling at his shoes and muttering to himself. In the NFL, the QB must be a leader ... that's just the way it is. That's what the position calls for. Manning doesn't have enough heart to lead. I personally feel that he has Aspergers Syndrome or is a high functioning autistic, so I hate to rip him too harshly.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:46 AM

Here are the QBs better than Eli........ No brainers Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers, Brees, That is the top tier Next tier Favre, schaub, Romo, Rivers, Eli, Mcnabb, ....... Eli takes alot of crap , mostly because he is not Peyton. He is not a top rung QB but he is just as good as Mr "october' Romo............ If i remember Eli won road playoff games as big dogs vs Romo,favre, and superbowl vs hall of famer Tom Brady leading a game winning drive. Also Eli plays in the Northeast in a tough windy stadium, , tough to have big stats in november and december......... I have no problem with Eli, he is a good as any qb in the division, and has the ring to prove it

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 06:55 AM

QUOTE (mr sarcastic @ Sep 2 2010, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are the QBs better than Eli........ No brainers Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers, Brees, That is the top tier Next tier Favre, schaub, Romo, Rivers, Eli, Mcnabb, ....... Eli takes alot of crap , mostly because he is not Peyton. He is not a top rung QB but he is just as good as Mr "october' Romo............ If i remember Eli won road playoff games as big dogs vs Romo,favre, and superbowl vs hall of famer Tom Brady leading a game winning drive. Also Eli plays in the Northeast in a tough windy stadium, , tough to have big stats in november and december......... I have no problem with Eli, he is a good as any qb in the division, and has the ring to prove it



Matt Ryan (not the mayor) is better than Eli as well. Flacco is on his way there too.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 08:48 AM

I agree with everything you said except when you got to Shanahan's "insanely good offensive line" for a couple of years. Shanahan's scheme worked every single year no matter who the RB was and whatever the makeup of the o-line was. It wasn't a talented o-line itself that made them successful every single year for 10-15 straight. It was the scheme. Shanahan's scheme.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (mr sarcastic @ Sep 2 2010, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are the QBs better than Eli........ No brainers Peyton, Brady, Big Ben, Rodgers, Brees, That is the top tier Next tier Favre, schaub, Romo, Rivers, Eli, Mcnabb, ....... Eli takes alot of crap , mostly because he is not Peyton. He is not a top rung QB but he is just as good as Mr "october' Romo............ If i remember Eli won road playoff games as big dogs vs Romo,favre, and superbowl vs hall of famer Tom Brady leading a game winning drive. Also Eli plays in the Northeast in a tough windy stadium, , tough to have big stats in november and december......... I have no problem with Eli, he is a good as any qb in the division, and has the ring to prove it




tony romo is a stud? really? he is a turnover machine and has looked like an absolute fool when he get's in a playoff game. has never and will never win a thing in his life. the fumble of a perfect snap on a a chip shot to lose in the playoffs against seattle. the accuracy of a blind person against the giants in the playoffs. and last year's debacle in minnesota where he couldn't figure out minny was bringing the heat so he would stand in the collapsing pocket and get sacked and fumble around 5 times with a bunch of picks. might wanna check off to the hot receiver, tony. guess he hasn't progressed that far yet. he's a stud , though. eli manning is ten times the QB that mr. fun guy romo is and has proven it.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:19 AM

Eli is a very smart QB, the coaching staff says he almost always makes the right decisions when at the line of scrimmage preplay. He has a very strong arm but is not the most accurate thrower. He is definetely an above average QB, but not a superstar.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:24 AM

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Matt Ryan (not the mayor) is better than Eli as well. Flacco is on his way there too.

Neither one is better than Eli, but both are good young QB with upward potential. Flacco threw a few game losing int last year with his team in field goal range. Flacco to me right now is million dollar arm with a 10Cent head. Once he learns the position, phil simms says it takes about 4 full years before you experience everything, he could be super because he has great arm strength

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:26 AM

QUOTE (mr sarcastic @ Sep 2 2010, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eli is a very smart QB, the coaching staff says he almost always makes the right decisions when at the line of scrimmage preplay. He has a very strong arm but is not the most accurate thrower. He is definetely an above average QB, but not a superstar.



some guys just get it done. romo would rather be seen on a date than play football. eli is low key. he's got 1 ring. if he can snag 1 more, he would be in the superstar category. romo is in the joker category.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:54 PM

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tony romo is a stud? really? he is a turnover machine and has looked like an absolute fool when he get's in a playoff game. has never and will never win a thing in his life. the fumble of a perfect snap on a a chip shot to lose in the playoffs against seattle. the accuracy of a blind person against the giants in the playoffs. and last year's debacle in minnesota where he couldn't figure out minny was bringing the heat so he would stand in the collapsing pocket and get sacked and fumble around 5 times with a bunch of picks. might wanna check off to the hot receiver, tony. guess he hasn't progressed that far yet. he's a stud , though. eli manning is ten times the QB that mr. fun guy romo is and has proven it.

I said he was a regular season stud. Check the stats if you disagree.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:01 PM

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some guys just get it done. romo would rather be seen on a date than play football. eli is low key. he's got 1 ring. if he can snag 1 more, he would be in the superstar category. romo is in the joker category.

In 2007, Manning had a 73 passer rating. Luckily, their pass rush and running game was DOMINATE enough to make up for his inadequacy. In that same year, he had a 72 passer rating in the NFC title games, and an 87 passer rating with TWO fumbles in the Super Bowl.

Yet, he lives on his reputation from that one post season. Hmmmm....

Perhaps it's time to reevaluate his reputation! I'll take Romo any day over Eli, as would just about anyone.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:03 PM

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some guys just get it done. romo would rather be seen on a date than play football. eli is low key. he's got 1 ring. if he can snag 1 more, he would be in the superstar category. romo is in the joker category.

You can't be a superstar QB with an 80 passer rating, which is about Eli's average. I'm sorry, you just can't.

And he will never get another ring, because he's barely an average QB. They will once again have to surround him with the best pass rush and running game in the NFL. And lightening won't strike twice.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:14 PM

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Neither one is better than Eli, but both are good young QB with upward potential. Flacco threw a few game losing int last year with his team in field goal range. Flacco to me right now is million dollar arm with a 10Cent head. Once he learns the position, phil simms says it takes about 4 full years before you experience everything, he could be super because he has great arm strength

If I needed to win a game, I would pick Flacco first, and then flip a coin between Ryan and Eli. Flacco's passer rating and completion percentage with a weak receiving corps is rather impressive!

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:43 PM

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In 2007, Manning had a 73 passer rating. Luckily, their pass rush and running game was DOMINATE enough to make up for his inadequacy. In that same year, he had a 72 passer rating in the NFC title games, and an 87 passer rating with TWO fumbles in the Super Bowl.

Yet, he lives on his reputation from that one post season. Hmmmm....

Perhaps it's time to reevaluate his reputation! I'll take Romo any day over Eli, as would just about anyone.

Your passer rating arguement has zero merit, unless you think Chad Penington is the 6th best QB of all time. Dante Cullpeppper is 9th all time, both of those guys are ahead of Dan Marino. Jeff Garcia Rich Gannon are better than Troy Aikman, i guess so if you use your qb rating to go by. . NFC title game was played in 20 below windchill factor, i think he played great that day, teaming up with Plaxico Burress to toast Al Harris. The giants have plenty of problems this year, Eli is the least of em.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 04:03 PM

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If I needed to win a game, I would pick Flacco first, and then flip a coin between Ryan and Eli. Flacco's passer rating and completion percentage with a weak receiving corps is rather impressive!



Exactly. I'm not saying Eli sucks because he doesn't, I just think Flacco and Ryan are better QB's.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 04:55 PM

Until those boys prove they can do it, maybe they will, ill take Eli because he has done it, against a team that was 16-0




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